Comments on: Diet Cults http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/ Personal Opinions about Diets Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:42:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jayne http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-51577 Jayne Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:24:58 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-51577 Ground beef hey? Well, since supermarkets are notorious for putting all sorts of disgusting exotic ingredients in ground beef (skin, gristle, organs, brain, meat with pus and sores, etc), it's just possible that people who eat this are getting a whole lot more variety than they ever bargained for. Haha. Maybe zero carbs are onto something. Ground beef hey? Well, since supermarkets are notorious for putting all sorts of disgusting exotic ingredients in ground beef (skin, gristle, organs, brain, meat with pus and sores, etc), it’s just possible that people who eat this are getting a whole lot more variety than they ever bargained for. Haha. Maybe zero carbs are onto something.

]]> By: Dean http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-9298 Dean Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:48:55 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-9298 I beg to differ with you, there, damaged justice. Many of these ZIOH folks were critical or disillusioned with ZC for a long time, yet, they became very starry-eyed (or was it glassy-eyed?) when along came Charles. It is a very scary thing when someone can come along and act the way he does and get all kinds of attention and admiration and god-only-knows what from sheeple just looking for a guru who has all the answers, and, believe me, I've never seen anyone who thinks he has all the answers in a worse way than Charles Washington! That may only be because I was not living when Hitler was. Sorry to sound so cynical, but, I have been on the ground witnessing all of this activity for a very long time, and it is quite disturbing to say the least. I beg to differ with you, there, damaged justice. Many of these ZIOH folks were critical or disillusioned with ZC for a long time, yet, they became very starry-eyed (or was it glassy-eyed?) when along came Charles. It is a very scary thing when someone can come along and act the way he does and get all kinds of attention and admiration and god-only-knows what from sheeple just looking for a guru who has all the answers, and, believe me, I’ve never seen anyone who thinks he has all the answers in a worse way than Charles Washington! That may only be because I was not living when Hitler was. Sorry to sound so cynical, but, I have been on the ground witnessing all of this activity for a very long time, and it is quite disturbing to say the least.

]]> By: damaged justice http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-8658 damaged justice Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:37:03 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-8658 I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of Zeroing In On Health. I am a happy, successful and independent zero-carber. However, I consider your interpretation of events a delusional attempt at feces-disturbing. Charles is no pied piper guru, and his forum members are no ignorant children or sheep in search of a leader. I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of Zeroing In On Health. I am a happy, successful and independent zero-carber. However, I consider your interpretation of events a delusional attempt at feces-disturbing. Charles is no pied piper guru, and his forum members are no ignorant children or sheep in search of a leader.

]]> By: How to turn dieting into a religion http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-8620 How to turn dieting into a religion Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:41:49 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-8620 [...] Zero Carb forum that has tuned into something that very much resembles a cult. (I actually wrote a post about that a few weeks [...] [...] Zero Carb forum that has tuned into something that very much resembles a cult. (I actually wrote a post about that a few weeks [...]

]]> By: mariasol http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-8450 mariasol Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:00:12 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-8450 Well thought out comments, OYB. I agree, the one with the unethical conduct might not be obvious. But, I saw something to that effect when they moaned about how unfair it was to be banned from LCF but praised the guru for doing the same on their forum. Well thought out comments, OYB.
I agree, the one with the unethical conduct might not be obvious. But, I saw something to that effect when they moaned about how unfair it was to be banned from LCF but praised the guru for doing the same on their forum.

]]> By: OhYeahBabe http://mariasols.com/2009/10/30/diet-cults/comment-page-1/#comment-8449 OhYeahBabe Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:53:15 +0000 http://mariasols.com/?p=393#comment-8449 I remember when that Back Across the Line blog post was written, and thinking how perfectly it described the Kimkins situation. But wow, it describes the zc site even more accurately. I thought about highlighting each paragraph that applies, but found that they almost all do! The one that might not is "Members are taught to “rationalize” the conduct of the leader in matters they have always “considered unethical before,” under the guise that the “end justifies the means.”I'm not sure I ever saw that, unless you count the verbal abuse heaped on anyone who has questions or trouble sticking to the diet. The rest is so dead on that it's creepy. I'm sure members there don't appreciate being compared to cult victims. I feel bad about that. After all, they're just there to lose weight, right? But really I hope that they can objectively look at how the site operates and how people interact and realize how unhealthy it is to be there. (And I'm not even talking about the diet!) I don't think it's any coincidence that so many members there have/had eating disorders, either. I think back over all the people who emerged from Kimkins after weeks or months of absolutely denying anything was anything wrong with the culture at Kimkins. They didn't think it was like a cult there either, until suddenly the lights came on for them for whatever reason. Some are still trying to recover from the damage they experienced there. I remember when that Back Across the Line blog post was written, and thinking how perfectly it described the Kimkins situation. But wow, it describes the zc site even more accurately. I thought about highlighting each paragraph that applies, but found that they almost all do! The one that might not is “Members are taught to “rationalize” the conduct of the leader in matters they have always “considered unethical before,” under the guise that the “end justifies the means.”I’m not sure I ever saw that, unless you count the verbal abuse heaped on anyone who has questions or trouble sticking to the diet. The rest is so dead on that it’s creepy.

I’m sure members there don’t appreciate being compared to cult victims. I feel bad about that. After all, they’re just there to lose weight, right? But really I hope that they can objectively look at how the site operates and how people interact and realize how unhealthy it is to be there. (And I’m not even talking about the diet!) I don’t think it’s any coincidence that so many members there have/had eating disorders, either.

I think back over all the people who emerged from Kimkins after weeks or months of absolutely denying anything was anything wrong with the culture at Kimkins. They didn’t think it was like a cult there either, until suddenly the lights came on for them for whatever reason. Some are still trying to recover from the damage they experienced there.

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