I think it is very sad when someone must take themselves so seriously that they begin to believe they have found the Holy Grail or something. Charles may be into all of this for the “fame and fortune” since he has set up so many sites to sell t-shirts and other junk. It seems like his extremity may be related to seeking the notoriety to start selling products, books, etc. Or he could just be completely insane.

This man does not even have a firm grasp (or possibly any grasp) of basic human physiology, yet, he hands out all kinds of advice (or, I guess, for his members, requirements) for what practices to follow. It is just like Kimkins IMO. It’s dangerous!

I wasn’t an active post every hour on the hour member there at all but I did make a donation and was very respectful of his wishes of not commenting about anything there since I wasn’t ZC.

(The reason I made a donation there was because some of the literature he’s provided there helped me greatly. I felt like taking that info without giving something back was like stealing and I still feel that way.)

My anger with all of this isn’t about the money (it wasn’t that much in the grand scheme of things). It’s that I was very respectful there plus I found some of the information there worthy of a donation – which he certainly didn’t refuse. But yet that wasn’t worthy enough of a warning or notification prior to banning me? That’s the only reason I want to make sure others know about it so they don’t make the same mistake as I did. They don’t want to peacefully coexist with others there. They want an exclusive ‘club’. Which is perfectly fine if you’re into that sort of I’m better-than-you/you’re-not-worthy-of-us nonsense. I just think that as someone who took the time to make a personal contribution and never did one thing worthy of banning I deserved at least some sort of notice prior to being wiped out.

I doubt Charles is making a fortune from donations, and never claimed he does. That’s not where my comparison to Heidi Diaz lies. I don’t think he lies to get people there, and don’t think he posts phony photos to do it. Where I see similarities are in how people are treated. Suck ups are showered with praise. Others must make postive posts only. Don’t talk about health concerns or needing vitamins, unless the health concerns can be viewed as being caused by some diet infraction like a minor cheat, never the diet itself. Don’t question authority. Don’t irritate the owner or moderators. Don’t use too much space. It’s just not healthy to allow people to treat you that way.

I probably didn’t say that well. I’m in a hurry. GCG, I wish you well! I hope your friends find you and that you can work on your goals together!

Whatever!

I’ve been following the forum sporadically since, and it’s gotten much worse since then. Very few of the original members are left anymore…

I have seen many members being banned / unregistered but I didn’t know the practice had extended to paying “support members.” I wonder how legal that is? To require donations for a specific member groups and then deny access? I mean, it’s not like you vilated TOS (Terms of Service)as there are none. At least, there is no official TOS just the ever-changing rules that Charles applies as he sees fit.

If you are looking for support or help and do not know where to turn, remember, tens of thousands fled Kimkins, and through support were able to move forward. It is not easy to leave a ‘tight’ group. Maybe you were banned from a board like LCF under false pretenses and now regret your decisions. It is not too late to mend fences. It is not too late to regain old friends. It is never too late to regain health, clarity and those bonds that were broken due to a trust that turned sour.

We are here to help you to be who you are without apology. Without regret. And in health.

In love and peace,

a former ZIOH member,
cleochatra/Jamie